Tyson would have annihilated Ali if they fought each other in their prime. amirite?

What about prime Ali with Harry Potters invisibility cloak and a switch blade vs teenager Tyson on heroine with the infinity gauntlet?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

😂

by True-List2875 1 month ago

But which heroine?

by Xgorczany 1 month ago

Autocorrect does not approve of drug use I guess

by Anonymous 1 month ago

No ducking spit

by Xgorczany 1 month ago

Spiderman

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Name one great fighter that mythical version of Tyson beat. One. I don't even mean all time great…I just mean even great for the era.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yep I trust my own eyes to say confidently enough that Tyson is the best ever. Could be wrong but I can't be convinced otherwise based on what I've seen over and over again

by Ok_Fox_2658 1 month ago

Easy to look destructive when you are fighting against bums, tyson never beat anyone on ali's level and plenty of guys with ali's style made him struggle. Ali dominated guys with tysons style and beat more elite fighters than any other HW in history. He'd kill tyson in his prime.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Did you see how quick and fast prime Ali was? It's why they call him The Butterfly. The early 60's Ali. His lateral movement and ring iq was something else.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

And everyone underestimates his chin. Sorry guys but 1, 2 or 3 punches from Tyson isn't gonna take down the guy that fought Liston, Frazier, Foreman and Shavers and never got knocked out, even when he had Parkinson's and could barely move he lost on his feet. His chin was just as much of an asset as his speed and you could argue it's the best in the history of the sport. Tyson doesn't have actual magic hands, he struggled whenever he fought anyone nearly as great as Ali who he couldn't maul in 2 rounds, not even to mention the fact that Tyson probably couldn't get a clean hit on the fastest heavyweight in history that easily anyway. Ali knocks him out in a late round and if it's young Tyson, sends him into a depressive spiral.

by Keelygoldner 1 month ago

Thpiral.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Thats true and even Muhammad Ali agreed on that but only if tyson catches him, Muhammad Ali was fast af boi.

by NoHelicopter 1 month ago

Yep. Ali could dance around Tyson and wear him down, but all Tyson has to do is catch him one time, or corner him, and it's game over.

by Outrageous-Rub 1 month ago

Yea, but we call Muhammad Ali the great was because all that he has gone through, all criticism and etc. But in the end, every legend has its own legacy. <3

by NoHelicopter 1 month ago

Genuine question have u only seen tiktok clips of mike tyson to come to this conclusion. Have you seen any ali fights? or how he's known for never getting knocked out? If prime george foreman couldn't knock down a out of prime old ALI then how would mike tyson knock out prime ali?

by Awkward-Internal826 1 month ago

That's what they said about Douglas and two Holyfield fights. And Tucker. And Mitch Green. And Quick Tillis. How come he couldn't knock them out?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Ali has been cornered before but just danced his way out.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

With a longer reach too. It would be interesting

by Intelligent-Ear2927 1 month ago

I agree, and the ease with which Lewis dismantled him in their eventual fight backs this up. Granted tyson was worse then and Lewis was better so it would've been more of a fight.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Ali fought harder punchers than Tyson, Ali fought better technicians than Tyson. Tyson never fought anyone on the level of Ali. It's not even close son.

by abigale56 1 month ago

One generation apart is a stretch. Prime Ali was in what the 60s? Vs someone who peaked in the late 80s- early 90s.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Isn't drinking from a straw normal?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Not when that is the only way you can drink due to destroyed motor function from brain damage

by SpellAppropriate4356 1 month ago

😬 Too many punches.. I think he meant "eat"

by Ora95 1 month ago

Those 80's guys Tyson fought were better than you think. Pinklon Thomas, Bonecrusher Smith, Tony Tucker, Frank Bruno, Razor Ruddock, these were legit guys. Tyson was just that much better.

by Living_Expression724 1 month ago

Pretty strong point for Tyson, we don't know or care about his competitors because he was so far above them.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Ali fought George Foreman and won. George is like the Mike Tyson of their generation.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I heard Sonny Liston was one of the hardest hitters in boxing. I believe he was the heavyweight champion before Ali. I also heard when Liston was using the punching bag, one of the trainers had to hang off of the bag to keep it from swinging all over the place... I heard all this during one of my phases where I liked boxing.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Maybe hyperbole, but Bruce Lee's punch was remarkably powerful for his weight. 130 lbs and could send a grown man flying backwards from an inch away.

by Feeneyleland 1 month ago

just no.

by FaultMediocre 1 month ago

No, son. Boxing, as every sport, has come a long way and what was cutting edge in the 70s is not anymore (and wasn't in the 90s either)

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Ali fought harder punchers than Tyson, You gonna have to source that one bro because I don't know any hitters that hit harder than Tyson.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

George Foreman, Earnie Shavers

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Neither Foreman nor Shavers had the technical skill that Tyson had. Tyson isn't just a brute like he's portrayed. He was quick and very skilled. Shavers may have had Tyson's punching power, definitely beyond Foreman, but it just doesn't make up for the difference in ability. Ali never fought the perfect storm that Tyson is. If Ali takes it, it's because he gave Tyson the Buster Douglas treatment and wears him down over many rounds.

by Feeneyleland 1 month ago

Who? The generation of Tyson had much stronger, faster and more skilled fighters overall than during Ali's time. That only changed after Tyson's era when MMA started becoming the popular thing and the people that could've been extremely good boxers moved to MMA.

by Fast-Ad5217 1 month ago

Name those fighters that were stronger faster and more skilled than Frazier, Norton, Liston, and Foreman. Foreman fought as an OLD MAN in Tyson's era and was heavyweight champion. If you actually know boxing, then name the fighters who were better than those above.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Pinklon Thomas could have conceivably popped Norton. However , with Larry Holmes at the end of his prime, hypothetical prime versions of the other three (Foreman, Frazier, Liston) would each have razed the heavyweight division just as easily as Tyson did between 86-89.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Preach. Holyfiend had to take old man Foreman to a decision.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Some of the heaviest hitters ali faught was frazier and george foreman. (notably ali was not in his prime against them, especially not against foreman) Against joe frazier he got knocked down only once in 12 rounds in their first fight and lost on points. then he dominated frazier after in the rematches. George foreman even with his power never even stumbled ali and got knocked out. Idk why so many fake boxing fans speak so confidently that "if mike tyson catches ali its over" ali literally was known for never getting knocked out

by Awkward-Internal826 1 month ago

just because he never got knocked out in his career= tyson could never do it ever at all is this what you're saying? because i sure hope it isn't

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Tyson fought Lewis

by Anonymous 1 month ago

He faster than Ali. For sure. Even on the inside. Heck, box him out, he's still faster. When asked which match he wanted, all-time, man said Achilles. He is not a generational talent. He is forever. Iron Mike.

by ibrahimspinka 1 month ago

Mike probably wins if he reliably gets inside. But Ali had power too, could def catch Tyson coming in with an uppercut and end his night.

by hauckkimberly 1 month ago

Well, it's over unless your name is Buster Douglas.

by Dnitzsche 1 month ago

Ali's greatest strength as a boxer was not his speed, it was his ability to take a punch. He had maybe the greatest chin in boxing history. His length and his chin would have given Tyson fits. Guys like Liston, Foreman, Earnie Shavers, etc could hit like Tyson did, but you just couldn't hurt Ali. Ken Norton broke his jaw early in their first fight, and Ali went the distance.

by Initial_Bend_6937 1 month ago

99/100 you can accurately assess how little someone knows about boxing by how wildly they overestimate Tyson. Ali knocked out in 2? There are 5 year olds who have a better understanding of the sport than you do.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Ali faced a much stronger puncher(Foreman) and let him punch himself tired. He almost died in the ring against Frazier being unwillimg to throw in the towel. One thing is pretty certain Tyson would have had to kill Ali and he never exhibited the stamina to do so.

by Howemay 1 month ago

Yeah and Mike always said that Ali would beat him. The two just respected each other too much to say "yeah I'd beat his ass"

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Not saying OP doesn't have valid points, but Tyson would have punched OP for disrespecting Ali haha.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."

by Ladarius36 1 month ago

Tbf that "if he could catch me" is a pretty huge qualifier

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Ali easily beat Floyd Patterson who was trained by Tyson,s trainer and had a similar style. He beat Foreman, Shaver, and Liston who hit as hard or harder than Tyson. Tyson lost to Buster Douglas who was a tall boxer with a good jab and movement like Ali.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The only way Tyson could beat Ali was if he tried to eat him like he did Holyfield.

by qrosenbaum 1 month ago

sometimes i think fight fans have more cte than the fighters themselves

by rschulist 1 month ago

my dad could beat him up he knows karate

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Ali never convincingly beat Ken Norton

by NoConfusion 1 month ago

He lost to buster Douglas by knockout lol. Tyson may have been one of the most feared of all time, but he certainly wasn't the best at anything. Maybe the most ruthless heavyweight?

by agutkowski 1 month ago

It would be a great fight, but Ali would win

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Ali survived prime Foremen, Tyson isn't annihilating Ali.

by OddMix 1 month ago

Mike Tyson is probably the most overrated boxer of all time. I say this as a Tyson fan. He lost like every big fight he had. Ali's resume speaks for itself. True legend, and IMO, the best to ever do it.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Tyson was afraid to even fight an old Foreman. He would've had no chance against Ali.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

You're not a historian of boxing, that's for certain. I've no idea if your opinion is unpopular. Recency bias is a real thing, particularly among those with little actual knowledge. ( Sugar Ray Robinson is the actual answer)

by Virtual-Ideal 1 month ago

Tyson would have difficulty landing punches; Ali was too quick. I'd take Ali.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Height advantage: Ali Reach advantage: Ali That's boxing. Ali ftw.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Lol, no

by Anonymous 1 month ago

You don't know what you talkin bout boy. You better sit your ass down before Ali comes back from the death to prove you wrong. Ali in his prime beats everyone in their pirme. He was absolute perfection.

by abigale56 1 month ago

It's like saying Pelè vs R9. Differents athletes and different times

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It's really all opinion, nobody can know. From a career-based perspective though I think Ali proved he could beat some of the most physically imposing, aggressive, and hard-punching heavyweights in history (Liston, Foreman, Frazier). On the other hand, Tyson struggled in fights against better conditioned, purer boxers like Ali who were able to neutralize his aggression and beat him with skill (Holyfield, Lewis). Outside of Spinks, Mike's wins were less significant than Ali's, his losses were more disappointing, and he was far less consistent. "Prime Tyson" is a bit of a joke, his resume is far less impressive than his highlight tape.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Maybe. Im not sure if Tyson would have had the discipline to not over punch the way Foreman did in his famous bout with Ali. Remember prime Foreman was a powerhouse too who hit with massive power but Ali was fast and wore him out. Prime Ali might have been able to do the same to Tyson.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Tyson was getting squash matches in his prime, most overrated boxer of all time

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Tyson never beat a great heavyweight in their prime. Ali beat several that were better than Tyson. Ali would win on heart and character alone. Ali was crazy. Ali is the toughest heavyweight ever. If Tyson doesn't get an early KO, Ali wins. Prime Holmes would beat him too.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Hahahahaha. Hahahahaha. No. Sorry. You have no idea what Ali was like in his prime. His prime was in the 1960s and was largely stolen from him. What people think of his prime was after he went without a fight for years fighting his conviction for draft evasion. And then he showed that even though he was now past what should have been his prime, he was still better and faster and harder hitting than anyone else. For years. And years. I watched Tyson come up. He was fierce. He had great skills. But he was not Ali. And if you ask Tyson, he will tell you the same.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Larry Holmes in his prime would have whooped Tyson.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Nope. Not even close.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Why are you booing the man? He's right!

by Embarrassed_Leg_8742 1 month ago

People who don't know boxing always overrate Tyson, he didn't even dominate his own time

by SpellAppropriate4356 1 month ago

Ali had speed, Tyson has power. If Ali could tire out Tyson he'd probably win, but one good hit from iron Mike would most likely knock him down.

by Afraid-Nobody 1 month ago

At first I read ‘Tyson' as ‘Tylenol' somehow and was racking my brain trying to recall a competitor brand named ‘Ali'

by Nyasiastoltenbe 1 month ago

I still think it's a toss up. Ali could gas Tyson out. But Tyson can catch Ali with a button smasher. We'll never know.

by Artistic-Foot 1 month ago

What about my prime, Mick? AT LEAST YOU HAD A PRIME

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Tyson in his prime lost to Buster Douglas.

by Eastern-Day 1 month ago

Tyson himself disagrees

by Bryanacassin 1 month ago

Yeah I mean the archetype of the guy who beat him, Frasier, was a slugger who smothered your space and forced you to fight him out of clinches and from really close up. Tyson was a more technically skilled boxer imo, but he's also the prime example for that type of fighter

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Fights were a game to win for Ali, fights were not a game or even a sport for Tyson.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Well Tyson is more technical but Ali was a genius. No body shots from Ali. Head hunting with his hands low. I'm guessing Tyson would force Ali to fight smart like against Foreman. Tyson has the physical and Ali's mental is superior

by ybotsford 1 month ago

Definitely, especially with Ali all twitchy and lurchy and with those uncontrollable spasms.

by Narrow_Reading 1 month ago

I think Tyson should worry about beating Holyfield.

by Available-Dealer 1 month ago

Would you say that to Ali's face?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Tyson was like a better version of Frazier who beat Ali. People say how fast Ali was but Tyson was absurdly quick and short for a heavyweight so he came in at unexpected angles. It's probably the all time "what if" of combat sports

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Annihilate? No. But Tyson would win by KO. Decision? Ali.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Ali took Foreman full power bodyblows for more than 5 rounds, the strongest Slugger of all time btw. But Tyson style would favour him against Ali, it just wouldn't be that one sided as you're saying.

by No-Swimmer-7043 1 month ago

I like Ali. Too slick, too fast, and can hit with power going backwards. Tyson hits harder, but I don't think he's likely to catch Ali. Even if he did, Ali was tough as nails. I'm not sure Tyson hit harder than Foreman. I'm not saying Ali walks, he lost to Frazier and there's some comparison there. But in their primes, I just can't see it.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

obviously

by Cultural-Pay 1 month ago

Tyson fought the way Floyd Patterson and smoking joe fraiser except he hit harder, was faster and his punches were very accurate. Cus Dmato set up Tyson's style of fighting and training to be able to take on guys that fought like Ali and there were a lot of them in the 80s. Tydon wins.

by Laury65 1 month ago

I mean, he'd have to catch Ali first.

by Boring-Strawberry-34 1 month ago

The most ruthless boxer that ever lived is Roberto Duran. Second is mike Tyson and then George Foreman. Has Ali been hyped up to much? Probably. Was Tyson the most ruthless? He was one of the most ruthless and scariest heavyweights of all time I'll give you that…. And if your wondering who had the best career, manny Pac-Man

by agutkowski 1 month ago

Ali already said that

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Agreed. I've watched a ton of Ali, and he took way too many shots. Yes, he was slippery, but there's a reason he ended up the way he did. Tyson connects a couple and it'd be over. Ali, while long and could use that jab, never was able to avoid big blows completely in any fight.

by Overall_Guitar_8360 1 month ago

Disagree. Tyson crumbled whenever his opponent wasn't scared & actually fought back.

by Ogoodwin 1 month ago

Foreman would annihilate Tyson

by NoConfusion 1 month ago

Tyson would've given up mentally by the middle rounds after Cassius Clay survived the initial onslaught. Cassius Clay dancing and stinging all the way to leaving Tyson refusing to get off the stool by the 8th.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

This is literally the opinion of people who don't watch boxing and/or haven't actually seen Tyson fight other than YouTube KO compilations. A tall, quick fighter with a good jab is/was Tyson's worst match up. He would've lost to Ali and he would've lost to Lennox Lewis.

by veumalize 1 month ago

The training and conditioning of Tyson's day was superior to Ali. There will undoubtedly be someone from our times who has AI monitoring and training and advanced techniques (and probably drugs or supplements) that will absolutely make them superhuman compared to someone from 1910 or Ali's or Tyson's time.

by Temporary_Ride 1 month ago

Ali could have jabbed and danced… Prime Larry Holmes would whup Tyson

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I think Joe Frazier could've took out Mike Tyson

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Tyson lost against every world class fighter he ever faced. Ali would have drove him crazy.

by Jolly-Watch-3567 1 month ago

If Cus D'Amato was in Tyson's corner…maybe. It would have been a great fight.

by Impressive-March-672 1 month ago

I feel like Tyson would have lost to a few guy that came after though the whole thing change and people in sport get better food training and the science is much more involved. Probably still the best too watch though.

by edmundcruicksha 1 month ago

Jack Johnson would have been a more interesting fight.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The person who said Ali was the"best of all time" was Ali.He would've been annihilated by Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Klitschko, Fury, Wilder, Bowe, Holyfield

by Anonymous 1 month ago

No way. Ali was the master of the rope-a-dope and you can't defend against it.

by Equivalent-Motor3970 1 month ago

Tyson's hands were way faster than Ali's. Not feet but hands.

by Direct-Release 1 month ago

Would have been fun but as good as Ali was my money would be on Tyson.

by sanfordgreenhol 1 month ago

Tyson disagrees with you on this.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Tyson couldn't hit Holyfield and you think he could've hit Ali?

by Present-Entry 1 month ago

Tyson himself would not agree with you. He's said as much. Perhaps out of respect though.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I agree. I think Ali has the better legacy, but Tyson was a stylistic nightmare for him.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

We're they in the same weight class? Tyson always looked much bigger to me

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Tyson has been shown able to be controlled. Especially by longer boxers with a stiff jab. (Lewis, Douglas, others) Ali is exactly that PLUS super fast, super durable and super high endurance. I'm a Tyson promoter and I just don't think so my friend.

by ScheduleSharp9345 1 month ago

Tyson's legend has outgrown the man. A big part of his success was that he teed off on arguably the worst group of heavyweight boxers the weight class had seen up to that point. He built up this air of ferocity that gave him a psychological advantage as soon as he started walking down to the ring. But once Douglas showed that if you can actually turn the fight into a true boxing match his career was basically over. I think Ali would have easily knocked Tyson out because as far as pure boxing, Ali is the greatest heavyweight of all time. He would have danced around the ring and used his height and reach advantage and just jabbed Mike to death. Lennox Lewis wasn't anywhere near as nimble as Ali and he just best Tyson to a pulp. Ali was on a totally different level skill wise than Lewis.

by fshanahan 1 month ago

If this is an unpopular opinion, it's only because Ali is a legend and his skills are vastly over exaggerated in peoples memories. Go watch old fight tape of Ali. He isn't any faster than any big name pro-boxer from the 80s on. Especially not Iron Mike. Go watch some video of Tysons head movement, dude looks like he has cheat codes. Ali is a household name because he was a decent fighter, had an unorthodox style, a huge personality, and he liked the limelight. Prime Tyson would absolutely level prime Ali.

by Tierra61 1 month ago

Foreman was basically the Tyson of his day. Knocked out everyone with ease, including Frazier who was a goddam tank. Ali virtually retired him in a comeback fight. I think people are sleeping on Ali, and the mental game in particular.

by Vbarton 1 month ago

Vicious is fun and it's a great description, but Ali had a brand of violence all his own. It's not like he just point fought to decisions. You are severely underestimating Ali's boxing ability and head movement

by lennie05 1 month ago

Ali had that it factor, he would've found a way to win

by Sweet_Picture_1630 1 month ago

Every time Tyson failed to steamroll and intimidate his opponent, he lost

by Ndenesik 1 month ago

Tyson had the same peekaboo style as Floyd Patterson. Ali beat Patterson twice.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

How about Tyson v. Smokin' Joe? 😲😯

by ryanbernhard 1 month ago

I knocked Mike Tyson out along with Bald Bull and Piston Honda. Ali would destroy him.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Even Tyson said Ali would drag him into deep waters and beat him. Either way, it would be worth watching.

by FewWin172 1 month ago

No way Ali would have taken him into deep waters and Tyson's heart would let him down like it has in most of his tough fights

by Simple_Dust2928 1 month ago

Ali could take a punch, too. Those fights with Foreman and Frazier fights were absolute wars. He showed his chin in them, and combined with his ability to slip punches, I can't imagine putting money on this hypothetical fight with any confidence.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Honestly, it's not an unpopular opinion. Future generations of athletes are better then past generations. The sport has evolved and progressed in training / skillsets.

by liatromp 1 month ago

Ali had far superior footwork to anyone Tyson ever fought. Lightning fast hands and Tysons mind games would not work. Ali was at least as naturally large as Holyfield, who had a different style, but if you bullied Tyson back he would sometimes fold. Certainly a winnable fight for Tyson, but likely a very close, classic encounter. Tyson is basically Joe Frazier except with a better right hand, more dynamic combinations and speed, however without the same level of punch resistance and mental strength. Fascinating match.

by Expensive-South-3944 1 month ago

And while we're at it, Bruce Lee would get his ass kicked by any talented fighter who's trained MMA for like 2 years, not even a professional fighter.

by glubowitz 1 month ago

Yes this is true, Lebron is also just a better player than MJ ever was and Babe Ruth couldn't compete in todays MLB, sports get better over time. You have to evaluate the greats for the era they competed in. It's a stupid "hot take" everyone has because they think it's disrespectful to the greats when the sport got better because of them, boxing wouldn't be where it is today without Ali, nor basketball without Jordan, nor Baseball without Ruth but all of those guys could not compete as they were in todays world

by Nolaschuppe 1 month ago

It's about the first three rounds. Tyson either knocks him out or Ali draws him out like he did Foreman.I think Tyson is a smarter fighter than big George.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Even when Tyson was a killing machine and prime ego, he always conceded that Ali would beat him. One of my favorite interviews is where an older Tyson explains why. He said, "All that you see. That pop, pop, pop, pop. That's not muscle memory. That's not him reacting. That's hom concentrating and deciding to throw each punch the way he does. I can't hang with that."

by Low_Past 1 month ago

Didn't Tyson duck fights to keep his title?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Not an unpopular opinion at all. Agreed.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The guy who lost to Buster Douglas in his prime ain't beating ali

by augustine19 1 month ago

You think Tyson could have rocked George Foreman?! Boy, you outta your mind.

by Anonymous 1 month ago