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Going to a psychologist is more expensive than doing drugs, amirite?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Most drugs are very inexpensive. The overall costs of being an addict, not cheap.
by Anonymous1 week ago
That's why you don't do the drugs that are addictive.
by schinnerwilton1 week ago
Exactly, I go to a therapist but have had more meaningful realizations about myself doing shrooms than I have from therapy and 1oz of shrooms costs less than one therapy session
by greenholtbrandy1 week ago
Same thing happened to me and I'm much more resilient to bad experiences and trauma. I was drugged, robbed, and nearly died in Medellin last year. Didn't really phase me. Saw it as an opportunity to grow. Lost my job 2 days later. That got to me a bit but I accepted it really quickly. Then in April my mom was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and given 6 months to live. I didn't accept it and rejected the conclusion that she would die in 6 months. She's been doing treatment and has a chance to make it.
by schinnerwilton1 week ago
most of the time, fixing something is more expensive than damaging if
by Alert-Joke27691 week ago
You win
by harmon881 week ago
Psychedelics did more for me in a few months than therapy and pharmaceuticals in 10 years.
by schinnerwilton1 week ago
Kinda seems like being drugged robbed and nearly killed was more transformative than the drugs lol
by Anonymous1 week ago
you're doing it wrong. I go to my psychiatrist and do ketamine and the mfg rebates so much of the cost it tricks my insurance into thinking i've paid my deductible when i've really spent $200. and it cures my depression!
by lilliankoss1 week ago
So the manufacturer charges you like $3k, but then 'rebates' or discounts it down to $200, but they still tell your insurance that you paid the $3k (or whatever amount)? That... sounds like fraud, but I certainly won't be the one to tell them anything.
by homenickemmett1 week ago
It's legal if they don't catch him
by Anonymous1 week ago
This is how literally every business operates. Selling something they paid less for.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I don't think your experience is the norm, but I'm happy for you though (genuinely)
by Sokeefe1 week ago
How would doing drugs help you?
by Clarabelle651 week ago
I mean.. psychedelics can certainly help. And cannabis. Not for everyone ofc. But there are reports of people trying everything under the sun for depression, who've found cannabis to be the best medication by far. I mean, I consider cannabis to be one of the main reasons for wanting to live myself, with everything it does to improve my life quality. Not saying it can/will for everyone, but it certainly can for some! Probably depends on one's individual brain chemistry
by Xfisher1 week ago
Psilocybin assisted therapy has a protocol with a growing evidence base supporting efficacy especially with treatment resistant depression! It should ideally be done with a therapist's support
by Old_Fold_40721 week ago
I'm very happy for you! Anecdotally I've done psilocybin before and still experience my stuff. I can only recommend what has been researched
by Old_Fold_40721 week ago
For real. For every good result in a controlled study there are 100 x more people who took it recreationally and cured themselves by accident. I'm guessing the number of course
by Anonymous1 week ago
I began my journey to quit alcohol due to an epiphany from a psychedelic experience. Never needed to repeat the psychedelic, and I have been really feeling healthier than ever. It was like a catalyst for respecting my body!
by Gold-Ad-71171 week ago
I quit smoking cold turkey after tripping on acid.
by schinnerwilton1 week ago
I did therapy for 10 years and on medication for most of that time. Therapy was $350/month and medication another $80. About 2 years I bought an oz of magic mushrooms for $200 and started Microdosing, then tripped for the first time. A month later my depression and anxiety were basically gone. I continued to do mushrooms and also LSD ($15/tab). My life is in many ways worse (lost my job, was nearly murdered a year ago, mom has stage 4 cancer) than it was back then but my depression and anxiety no longer get in the way of me having a good day. I'm optimistic, to the point people don't recognize me. Drugs help.
by schinnerwilton1 week ago
It wouldn't, but you might think to yourself it does
by Anonymous1 week ago
This was a problem I had when I was drinking excessively. Therapy can get expensive, alcohol is pretty cheap. Therapy though helped me though in ways beyond just monetarily.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Can you explain how actually? What was the process with your therapy if you dont mind me asking?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Thanks for opening up, it helps to hear about other people paths and stories, especially when at a crossroad, wishing you the best!
by Anonymous1 week ago
As someone with sever depression and some other stuff drugs (and or alcohol) keeps me from killing myself quite often, where medication doesn't do that for me unfortunately. Of course it's far from ideal considering what it does to my body (blabla we all know), but I'm still here, so that's something I guess and without I know for sure I wouldn't be here anymore.
by ShallotBackground7391 week ago
digital hug
by Anonymous1 week ago
That's sweet. Thank you!
by ShallotBackground7391 week ago
I would say my depression and anxiety are more manageable when I'm sober if smoking in the evening is part of my routine. I don't have to be high all the time to get the benefits of cannabis, and in fact I'm rarely high outside the house and before 9:30
by Anonymous1 week ago
The addiction epidemic centers around opioids, cocaine, and meth, not psychedelics
by beckergreyson1 week ago
Yall have availability with psychologists in your countries? Must be nice not having wait lists that are years long for the few my region has.... gonna smoke the weed while im forced to wait and hey, weed is legal here now and has been since 2018! I didnt start this habit, but it sure would be funny if it finished me. I haven't even been able to see a psychiatrist (the one who prescribed the medication, psychologists are even more rare here!) since like 2021. Lmao. And you can afford paid therapy? Wowee loook at you, how lucky!
by Other-Drop1 week ago
Cheer up! Just ask GPT to behave as one! It's the future /s
by Anonymous1 week ago
GPT? I had Dr. Sbaitso that came bundled with my Sound Blaster around 1991.
by jtorp1 week ago
Im laughing rn, that's so funny /s
by Other-Drop1 week ago
Glad you found what works for you :)
by Anonymous1 week ago
Thanks!
by Nicholascrona1 week ago
Doing drugs will probably have you end up at a psychologist so it's double dipping into the expenses
by Anonymous1 week ago
No one sells everything they own for psychedelics
by samanthakerluke1 week ago
Well, not everywhere in Europe are these free, usually they are when minor or related to work
by Anonymous1 week ago
That's the American dream.
by Anonymous1 week ago
but it's just as addicting :)
by Anonymous1 week ago
Crazy times? Can't see a doc, gotta self medicate. At least the grass is always greener, right?
by Icy_Distribution1 week ago
I wanted to, but no one guarantee that therapy would work so it's hard to make a move and go to therapy.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I'd say that it's worth trying one session and see how you feel? Like others have said, it's good to see it as an investment
by Anonymous1 week ago
Year ago i tried therapy, it was costly but kinda necessary. But i didn't feel result at all. Now i have desire to seek help again but i fear the same conclusion. I don't mind spending money, but as i said no one can guarantee results. Thank you for cheering me up a bit
by Anonymous1 week ago
About as helpful as psychology too.
by Anonymous1 week ago
My gym membership is free with insurance reimbursement. I go 3/4 times a week for about an hour. Best therapy for me. Loud music and singular focus .
by jessika871 week ago
That's one good advice
by Anonymous1 week ago
Lmfaoooo this was too good
by Tyler111 week ago
And most of the time, less effective.
by Trick_Amount97471 week ago
I work in homeless outreach. I've never had a client who needed my services because they went to too much therapy.
by Watsicamarlin1 week ago
Second this. They are paid for your attendance and not you're success. If you learn the self awareness, and skills to cope with your issues on your own they will no longer get paid.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Most people who need therapy are there because for whatever reason that cannot learn these skills and coping mechanisms by themselves, which becomes even harder when you factor in mental illness. Telling people to fix their own problems is a big reason people don't seek help and suffer for longer unnecessarily. There is overwhelming scientific evidence supporting the effectiveness of therapy in treating psychological problems. Would you say the same thing of physicians or other doctors? Technically if your doctor helps cure your illness then you won't have to come back as much and they won't make as much money. Sure there are bad doctors, but this isn't how the industry works as a whole. If you are someone who is perfectly mentally healthy and just naturally knows how to cope with your own issues and traumas then good for you, but that just isn't realistic for so many people.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I've been hospitalized twice for mental illness, and been on medications for 12 years. Scientifically Cognitive Behavioural Therapy works... In a clinical setting because people have to participate. In the real world it is a competitive system where people can choose to go to therapists that offer pleasant solutions and don't challenge their perceived concept of self. Any therapist that challenges the patient isn't likely to see repeat business. So you end up with therapists that try to build a long term relationship and sneak in small changes so their patient doesn't leave or start maliciously complying. Instead of pointing out things like: -If you expect more from people then you offer they have the right to cut you out of their lives. -Social manipulation and neglect, in a relationship, are forms of abuse. -That they over-value their contributions while de-valuing others. -They are a toxic person. -That mental illness is not a scapegoat for being accountable or growing as a person. -That they have taken on a ''Victim Identity" to get attention, be selfish, and avoid their actual problems. Also, you don't "cure" mental health issues. You treat them.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Their credibility is at stake if that was 100% true but theres for sure some patients they keep longer than they probably should
by Anonymous1 week ago
a friend with weed is a friend indeed
by frobel1 week ago
A friend with breasts and all the rest
by ShallotBackground7391 week ago
I pay a $30 copay twice a month to see my therapist, and I spend a few hundred a month on weed. So I'm going to have to sort of disagree with you there.
by Embarrassed-Hat87561 week ago
Have you ever had a coke habit?
by Anonymous1 week ago
IDK what you're talking about, here with insurance it's free, and the pills are like 8 bucks a month. 8 dollars worth of pot is barely a joint and you can't even buy 8 dollars of coke.
by estherkerluke1 week ago
Don't need an appointment either. Liquor store is always open. And I don't have to tell a stranger my problems. Shame about everything else tho.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Dude you know how much rehab costs? And this is why we need public healthcare
by Anonymous1 week ago
Nope. Not at all. Not even close. Not even kind of. When I was struggling with stuff like that I went from a £10 bag a night all the way too 80-120 a day within a month or two.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Doesn't last as long as an addiction tho.
by qschimmel1 week ago
I've been sober for exactly 200 days today and I've saved about 50.000 nok, which is about 4.500$
by smithjerome1 week ago
Not far from the truth, and thank you :)
by smithjerome1 week ago
This just in: getting hooked on crack is cheaper than buying a mansion! Thanks guy!
by Diannaziemann1 week ago
You've never done drugs before, have you. There is a reason that people lose everything they have to drugs. It's not because they are more economical than getting professional help.
by Leuschkegerard1 week ago
and buddy, I'm a cheapskate
by Anonymous1 week ago
If you consider losing family, friends, any ability at a normal life and a quick death cheap then yeah....
by Anonymous1 week ago
That's why trauma is the real gateway drug.
by Albakassulke1 week ago
You have never had a cocaine addiction then.
by AdBubbly1 week ago
Financially, yes. Mentally, probably also yes. Physically, depends on what drug.
by Funny_Objective1 week ago
I prefer to relieve my stress by confiding in my close friend over a few drinks.
by kayleigh701 week ago
This reminds me of a conversation I had with some classmates. Mind you, all graduate students between 22 and 28 yo. We are all just studying in the library of our uni when one of my buddies exclaims "wow BetterHelp is like €70/week, guess I'll just be depressed." To which we all laughed a little and another mentioned "yeah well weed is like €20/week." It really just be like that. Terrible shame, but those are the economics of a mental health epidemic.
by Horror-Estimate1 week ago
Psychologists often recommend you to take drugs anyway, typically antidepressants.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Most of which are trash and make things worse, at least for me.
by schinnerwilton1 week ago
Approximately the same price as visiting a prostitute.
by orion671 week ago
Drugs is what will drive you to a psychologist. Keep f ucking up your brain.
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