A.I. is taking the arts first and leaving the menial tasks for us. amirite?

I love how these people think AI started once they could write image prompts for big booba uncanny valley women.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

And also that taking that away from commission "artists" on Twitter is literally destroying art

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I only consume organic hentai thank you very much.

by No_Quote_1543 1 week ago

free-range tentacles ONLY

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Organic hentai? That's… porn. Just regular porn

by Financial_Farm5768 1 week ago

Fine, vegan then. No actual women harmed or even involved.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

So, gay porn?

by Original_Pace1975 1 week ago

Are men vegan?

by Old_Committee 1 week ago

Yeah, this is very amusing to me

by Popular_Upstairs 1 week ago

I love how "AI" has become nothing more than a marketing buzzword. Actual AI doesn't exist.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I think they separate it with the term AGI, now

by OkBedroom 1 week ago

Neither does regular I, but whatever.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Well, but not actual AI. In fact, the first usages I can remember were dreaming and cooking recepies, many years ago, with Watson and Google Deepmind.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Does a programmed conversation tree that triggers off of keywords really count as AI though? I've written these out for small/medium companies before, it's really not advanced tech. Though I'm sure companies like Amazon use something a bit more sophisticated.

by Daynedietrich 1 week ago

To be fair, writing is also an art.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Call centers are next I've already seen Ai startups for automated calling.

by Tbartell 1 week ago

At least my job will be safe in Scotland. It'll be at least another two decades before they get the Scottish voice recognition patch

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yeh, a scoh'ish axen't es nót tew easeh fer sum.

by Far_League7074 1 week ago

Can ye rupea tha? Ah didne ken.

by cassiespencer 1 week ago

I let my Google ai screen my calls so... Could we just not do the dance in the first place? End calling.

by Fragrant_Candy 1 week ago

My phone has some feature to answer calls for me and get info from the caller (I think in my voice, but I'm not sure). I haven't tried it yet, but I found it interesting that that is an option now (It prompted me to set it up but I haven't gotten around to it)

by Due-Interaction7223 1 week ago

Yeah, it's unfortunate. Things made with intentional care and effort tend to resonate better. I'd take some sweet Amish furniture over Ikea any day.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Haha wouldn't anyone! People don't by IKEA furniture because it's the best.

by Dallinlubowitz 1 week ago

Yeah that's my point. IKEA is reasonably good quality stuff for the price. That's why people buy from them. Not because it's their favourite or what they would ever choose if they had unlimited money.

by Dallinlubowitz 1 week ago

At the IKEA's price point, you are very unlikely to find a product of better quality. You can buy furniture of better quality, but it will cost more, probably at least twice as much. That said, don't buy the cheapest version in IKEA's selection. Get at least the middle option, you will get your money's worth.

by naderisac 1 week ago

If you think about arts as production of artistic images, then yes, this occupation is pretty much on the verge of dying. But what really makes an art unique isn't just about the produce itself. A no name artist can make a perfect reproduction of Mona Lisa and it'll still fetch peanuts compared to the real thing. What makes a piece of art truly valuable and unique is often the story behind the art and less the art themselves. There are many talented artists that can make art as good or even better than famous artists, but their pieces can never fetch anywhere near what some can do. Writing a couple prompts to an AI isn't a really compelling story to make a desirable art.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Sure, that's if you are talking about art that one would put in museums and art galleries. However, there are also art for other spaces such as for games, events, and many others im not thinking of. In those instances, we have already seen concrete proof of companies using AI art.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Exactly. Saying people can still make the equivalent of the Mona Lisa isn't very encouraging because 99.999% of art is not that kind. It's nice, skilled, but routine art used in a million places. It's would be like going back to France in the 1900s and getting rid of all the artists but saying "it's ok because we left Picasso."

by Tadpadberg 1 week ago

You could make the same argument about clothes being made by machine It would be like going back to France in the 1900s and getting rid of all the clothiers(?) but saying "it's okay because we left the wedding dress makers" That's exactly what happened, and it's a good thing Sucks for the current artists without a doubt, but the next generation will simply have fewer commercial artists, and more "artistic" artists

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I feel it is the same story like Chess. AI has been miles better than humans at Chess for the longest time but Chess is still going strong (some may even say much stronger than before). People still express themselves through Chess and I feel it is this "expression of self" that AI will not capture at all. At least not until true conscious AI kicks in.

by Legitimate-Mention12 1 week ago

I don't think the lack of AI being used in Chess has got anything to do with expression. It's because as humans we are naturally competitive and want to challenge ourselves and others to competition. It's more like the answers page of a puzzle book. We know it's there but there is just no fun in looking at it unless you're properly stuck.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Art is a game rigged for rich people. It has nothing to do with actual value

by Actual_Channel 1 week ago

Humanity is cancelled.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Don't worry. A.I. will never be able to clean a toilet. There will still be jobs for us 😂

by Commercial-Tomato 1 week ago

They can do that too.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Oh for the love of Christ. A human being can't clean toilets. Toilet brushes and bleach can. Have you ever seen a human clean a toilet by rubbing it with their fingers or licking it with their tongue? No, you haven't. (Not counting perverts) These brushes and bleaches might be held by a human, but the human isn't really what gets the toilet clean. Next time, don't split hairs so absurdly razor thin.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Do they use toilets now?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Why would AI need to clean a toilet?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Why would AI need to make images? Or do literally any task?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

AI doesn't poop

by Anonymous 1 week ago

They are using AI art for the portraits of gods in a remake of a game I used to play (Age of Mythology) and it's super obvious and tacky. The original art is full of expression and AI doesn't come close to doing that job right.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

But it is doing that job...

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Ai 'artists' asking for commissions is literally money laundering

by Tressielarkin 1 week ago

It's taking the menial tasks too

by Nearby-Attention 1 week ago

Just shows what we prioritize in this culture, consumption over creativity

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Exactly. AI art isn't at the point it can innovate. It's only using pre-existing images and art pieces. Therefore, artists can still and still need to innovate. Without them, we'd just be stuck where we are today.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yeah, I would say that most consumers would prefer a true creative experience, but will pay for whatever is presented to us. Enabling it is the equivalent of what your saying I suppose.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

No, I wouldn't say it's enabling because I'm not just talking about the base level of consumption that we do while consume our products but rather the ideology of consumerism and how it's warped our perspectives and priorities. I feel like the world has lost a bit of its soul to base level pleasure and payout

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Well the people who make AI are definitely using it to automation jobs, cashier jobs, data manipulation jobs, shelf stocking jobs, even basic customer service; definitely menial tasks. Because the people who use AI casually and are inflating a bunch of the hype lately aren't envious of the people who stock shelves and rearrange excel sheets. They can already do that, and nobody cares. They're envious of the people who can draw, and make music, and write poetry. So they make a machine to do it using cheap shortcuts, so they can bask in the attention and pretend that the final work is as meaningful as an artist who put their soul into a piece.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's not about envy. Those things just turned out to be easier to automate with AI.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Opening a door isn't hard wdym, we have thousands of automatic doors.

by rick80 1 week ago

AI can walk pretty alright now, it's not trivial by any means but neural networks can do it

by Handmarguerite 1 week ago

Correct, I suppose, and I don't like it. How can T-800 fulfil it's function if it can't walk? Just bore us to death with phase five Marvel movies?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I agree with most of your points, but the thing is most artists already don't make much money. Gotta pay the bills somehow. AI generated stuff has flooded the market and this diluted the cost of getting art made for a certain section of the market. It doesn't affect people who make art for recreation or passion. I guess they only thing to do is adapt to the market because AI tech is here to stay just like any other technological leap and it's more about learning how to use it for yourself.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

The cost differential is so great I don't think people will. Think about an average commission - it would cost in the ballpark of maybe $100, but AI can generate one for cents or fractions of a cent. And as soon as AI is good enough that we can't tell the difference, there will be no way for consumers to choose human art. This will happen earlier for e.g. backgrounds and filler art than it will for promotional material, but it will happen over time.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Creating your own art is something only you can do, yes. In your small corner of the world you can express yourself and put your emotion to media. But how many songs, screenplays, pictures, etc. are already being produced by AI's interpretation of data? How long before every show or movie you watch is developed by an AI writer and augmented by an AI CGI animator? Meanwhile we're still by and large mowing lawns and taking out the garbage.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

AI can't even write a short essay that sounds decent to human ears, let alone come up with some creative art form. There are very, very few songs, screenplays, pictures, etc being produced by AI. It will be centuries before it might have the ability to do that on its own.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Centuries?! LOL. It took only 52 years to go from the super pixelated, simple Pong game to stuff like this being viewed on devices that not that long ago used to fill an entire room but now fit into your pocket. Don't underestimate how fast technology can grow/evolve/adapt.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

None of that is even remotely similar to having a machine able to be creative on its own. Humans did that, not an AI. AI is incapable of coming up with anything original, it's entirely derivative. Art isn't getting replaced by computers anytime in the foreseeable future.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Our tastes now days our pretty derivative too. We are to the point where a person can enter parameters for a product they are looking to make and AI can fill in the blanks, taking a good portion of the skill out of 'art.' What percentage of a piece of work would need to be AI generated before you considered it no longer art? 50%? 75%? 99.99999999%?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This is my biggest gripe about artists complaining about AI - they won't ever admit the only reason they're against it is greed.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Affording food and shelter through your art=greed is a take.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yes, it is truly heinous that individuals who've dedicated thousands of hours into their craft would like to be able to support themselves and their families.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

if you ever plan to open a dictionary start with greed.

by berryolson 1 week ago

Uh excuse me lmao this is an objectively awful take. People wanting to make money from their profession is greed?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

There's a gigantic difference between "I only do art so I can get paid" and "I need to get paid in order to do art". You talk like a person who has never struggled with money.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I never criticized your other points, so why bring them up? All I want is for you to acknowledge the point I made about art as a profession.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Capitalism doesn't want workers to be happier, more fulfulled, or more artistic, it wants them to make more money for capitalists.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Are you sure? I've been arting for a couple of decades now and AI helps me in the brainstorming part a whole big deal. I end up doing something better and faster than just a couple of years ago. I mean yeah if you weren't into art before AI, you can blame it now for not giving at a try.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

There's something deeply ironic about writers and artists being amongst most vulnerable jobs in the first wave of AI. There's something deeply hilarious about AI also coming for the programming jobs early on after tech bros have been snarkily telling everyone else to 'learn to code' for more than a decade.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Just learn to code bro!

by Radiant-Jello-1072 1 week ago

Funnily enough your example of drawing an anime girl can be done on MS Paint. I think the tool is in open beta right now, but it's interesting.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I've always had a slightly different stance. Isn't AI a form of art - especially to a certain degree? Creativity isn't gone - it is still the human interface that directs the creativity. Also, there is a significant amount of pre-existing snobby behaviour in the art world. You've got your abstract art criticisms with pieces that are genuinely just buckets on a rope that sell for 1000's of dollars. And then you have the inner-critique of artists that scoff at certain styles (photo-realism etc...). The art world has been prophesying their own demise - they used to mock each other - and now they are being mocked as a collective whole. I consider that anyone who has the stance that AI art is a net-negative contribution to art culture is just perpetuating the vile snobbery that has always existed. It is honestly like getting upset at Google home for announcing weather ☁️ rather than watching the weatherman.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I would say no one would care if pulling weeds or picking up trash was outsourced to AI, but having something we generally enjoy being widely outclassed to the point of obsoletion by an AI would suck. Further, I don't have to ever meet an artist to connect with them through their art, but I don't think it would be the same with an AI. I guess we'll see.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Your last line is in no way a fair comparison. Art is in its purest essence an expression of the human mind and intelligence and that's why so may categories music, writing, film-making etc fall under it. There is no actual expression behind AI art, no actual mind aware of its own existence, it just regurgitates data onto an image.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

By that definition no person is capable of generating art either, because we all need to rely on things we have seen or been taught in the past. There is no way for a human to create art completely in a vacuum either.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It is incredibly dramatic to conclude that the following generations of AI art will devolve into an "inbred" deformity. It has significantly improved - it has flaws, yes. Those flaws are really just quirks / bugs in the system - they are entirely correctable with generational improvements. One of the factors of improving AI art is to grade / measure other material to determine if it is AI art itself. I did originally detail the major concerns associated with AI generated imagery (deep fakes; intellectual property issues etc...) but this isn't a problem with AI - it is a problem with legislation - hence why I didn't include it. If it was such a major problem - then artists that produce art with heavy influence / reference to known art should be reprimanded. You'd really hate tourism in Europe - you leave an art museum and are immediately confronted with dozens of replica images from street artists - all for personal profit and gain. Every criticism launched at AI art is criticism that can be thrown at actual replication art made by humans. Also, since when is collaging information not considered a meaningful transformation of work? Regardless, I never debated that AI art doesn't have any associated negative impacts - I just don't think it should be villainised for innovating an industry.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Every criticism launched at AI art is criticism that can be thrown at actual replication art made by humans. Great. By the same token, please let the AI evangelists know that concerns around intellectual property apply in principle just as much to AI images as they do to people hawking cheap knock offs in the real world. Also, since when is collaging information not considered a meaningful transformation of work? When the selection of which works to include is semi-randomised by a pattern recognition tool with no intent behind which ones it selects.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Don't worry, it will come for the menial tasks next. Good luck finding a job after that.

by Alexandra88 1 week ago

AI still hasn't shown true originality in art though, it's always been remixes of current art made by humans.

by Weird-Mulberry 1 week ago

I mean, the wealthy humans were already doing that. This is just more efficient for them.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

We've gotten rid of many menial tasks with machinery without ai. You don't need ai for truly menial tasks. Lines in a factory, and the such, need specific machines.

by imiller 1 week ago

They are taking the arts first because the arts is not an industry. They can grow and experiment without effecting the economy too much. Don't worry, the menial jobs will be taken eventually.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Although I have to say, generally every thing not just a picture generated by AI, I found a disliking to

by Hyattmichaela 1 week ago

Wait till they take white collar jobs. Then the fun will really begin!

by Rude-Meeting 1 week ago

Manual labor is cheap. Creative labor is expensive. Hence, they replace the expensive labor and leave us with the cheap labor.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Machines have already taken over most of menial tasks we need every day. You just don't think about washing machines, dishwashers, coffee makers etc precisely because we don't need to hire people to do those anymore.

by rick80 1 week ago

Somehow out of all of this, companies will make insane profits and we'll all be working longer, harder and for less money. It will benefit no one but the rich, yet again.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This is it

by Radiant-Jello-1072 1 week ago

Most menial jobs don't require some fancy AI to get rid of. We already got rid of tons of them.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yes op, I saw the viral tweet that already said this too

by Anonymous 1 week ago

"AI" being a scapegoat for peoples' actions seems to mean it has also taken on the accountability of others at the same time.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Is an extension of all the terrible musicians and artists who are desperate for attention but lack the talent.

by Kathryne76 1 week ago

If you truly think what we have now, the buzzword of "artificial intelligence" is actual artificial intelligence than that means their marketing was successful on you. Ironically, it might also say a lot about what somebody defines as or sees as intelligent. Take a cognitive science course or philosophy of mind course and you'll see why more experts are starting to refer to a truly thinking machine as Artificial Intentionality opposed to Artificial Intelligence. Basically: Intelligence isn't an apt metric to measure awareness - ChatGPT is intelligent like a calculator is intelligent, it has information but doesn't know what to do with it. They currently just reconstruct data to our permutations and nothing more. They lack intention

by Anonymous 1 week ago

funny how you went on a completely unrelated ramble there at the end

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Sir. If 'not AI' is capable of what we are seeing now in art, then when the awareness does come around we should just hang up our tools.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It would be a waste of my time to contemplate such assumptions anyways

by Anonymous 1 week ago

AI makes pictures not art

by kinglaurence 1 week ago

That's a fact, because art is such an easy to define term we can make grand proclamations like this.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

most people ranting about AI pictures forget that the AI needs source material made by humans thus it only creates interpretations of different human artstyles. so no: art is not dying

by Anonymous 1 week ago

What about GAI?

by bartonfrederiqu 1 week ago

don't worry it's taking jobs too, if you're a software engineer...

by Useful_Fisherman487 1 week ago

Not really, or at least not yet. I find the coding copilot waste about as much time as they save. I don't know of any system reliably using complete LLM generation code pipelines yet. But they will get better.

by Top_Organization_489 1 week ago

Yeah I tried to code some scripts for a video game map and chatgpt lied to me about what sort of library functions were available in that specific language

by Ok_Collection 1 week ago

Poeple say that supposedly it saves them time when writing boilerplate code, but reality usually is that you (or someone else in your team) has already written a library which you just use over and over again. I also found that while evaluating Copilot, that I was losing time, because it took me at least the same time writing the prompt, it would have taken me to just write the damn thing myself. And when it was wrong, it obviously took me double time because I did no progress at all 🙄

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It isn't replacing software engineers any time soon lol

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I love that I have ai to help me express my creativity. So many dream homes and gardens that I've never been able to paint or draw come to life. Haircuts I could never find online that I can now describe in vivid detail and it appears right there. If anything it's opened the gate that so many have tried to keep closed.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

AI art IS art. Boomers.

by Anonymous 1 week ago